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Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Dress code for women in Islam

Since one of the most visible signs of distorted Islam is the dress code for women, this is a detailed analysis of the female dress code according to the Quran. It is a bit lengthy and repetitive but if you stay with it and read the whole post, it may give you a different perspective. It is also hoped that a more accurate sense of the Quranic injunctions in Quran 24:31, 33:59 and 24:60 will be detailed. In addition, clarify if “except what appeared/is visible from it” in Quran 24:31 refers to specifics in the verse or is a snippet within the verse referring to something in general. In addition, I hope to clarify the meaning of some key Arabic words.

The verse Quran 33:53 is sometimes quoted for dress code but it is not accurate to do so.

Two sets of people are mentioned in the verse Quran 24:31 below, a general set, which includes everybody you may encounter in a public place and just one single subset with detailed qualification as to who should be included in this single subset. This detail needs attention. The presence of the husband with the other members of this subset is the first key and appears to be central to the understanding of this verse. Where will you find this group? There is no indication to further divide this subset or a hint of different degrees within this subset as some commentators would like us to believe and this is the second key, I will explain.

Literal: And say to the believers they (F) lower/humble from their eyesights, and they (F) protect/safe keep from their genital parts between their legs, and they do not show their decoration/beauty except what appeared/is visible from it, and they hold in place/sew (E) with their head covers/covers on their collar opening in clothes/chests , and they do not show their decoration/beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers (fathers-in-law), or their sons, or their husband's sons (step- sons), or their brothers, or their brother's sons (nephews), or their sisters' sons (nephews), or their women, or what their right (hands) owned/possessed (i.e. caregivers under contract), or the followers/servants (those) not (owners) of need/desire/intelligence and resourcefulness (without a sexual drive) from the men or the child/children (the very old or very young), those who did not see and know of on the women's shameful genital parts , and they (F) do not beat/strike with their (F) feet to be known what they (F) hide from their decoration/beauty , and repent to God all together , oh you the believers, maybe/perhaps you succeed/win. Quran 24:31

If the above verse was supportive of "Hijab" as defined by some Muslims today (the word incidentally is not present in the verse) then it would pose a number of difficulties. First of all, there is no consensus on the issue that it does refer to Hijab furthermore it will be demonstrated that there is no basis for it to start with because the verse has to do with the relaxation of the dress code as much as compliance with certain standards in public. In fact, according to most commentators, face and hands are not included in the parts of the body not to be exposed in public. The presence of both husband and father in the list settles the issue. It cannot be face and hands because you do not need a detailed relaxation injunction to show your face or your hands to your husband or father. Thus, relaxation in the verse will not apply to face and hands because there is no need for it. It would be like telling the kids, don’t give your home telephone number to any stranger on the street but if you run into your Dad or Mom on the street you are allowed to give it to them. Your natural reaction to mentioning Mom or Dad in the advice would be like Duh or OKAY. Then what is God referring to in the verse?

Furthermore, since very small children are mentioned in the subset, who are not yet aware of a woman's sexuality, point towards something related to a woman’s sexuality, small children never associate a woman’s face with her sexuality. Most important the very old were also not deemed to associate a woman’s sexuality with her face even though they had a lifetime to make the association. Finally linking the identical word form "zeenatahunna" to beating/swinging/striking of feet bury the notion of face and hands as something linked to it.

We have to look at the issue from inside out, we have to agree on the part (s) of body, either fully exposed and/or apparent through clothing that can be seen by the husband and the other members of the subset, that is the father, the father in law, small children etc. Once we have identified which parts of the body, we can then settle the issue of which parts of the body are not to be shown in public. In terms of set and subset, to show to the subset but not show to the general set. Logic dictates that the verse is not referring to hiding your whole body from head to toe in public. Because, if the injunction were to hide your whole body in public then the exceptions dictate you are allowed to show your whole body to your husband along with the father and father in law, that would be simply absurd. The inclusion of husband in the list is very important to point us in the right direction.

One thing is very clear, I repeat, two sets of people are detailed, a general set (everybody) and just one single exhaustive subset with detailed qualification as to who should be included in this single subset. There is no indication to split this subset further as I already mentioned. Now where are you going to run into all these people, why of course at home, it is not about going around to the individual members of this group but the place where all these people assemble.

Now let's analyze the flow of verse Quran 24:31 to try and determine the context of certain terms in the verse;

.......... they (F) protect/safe keep from their genital parts between their legs, and they do not show their decoration/beauty except what appeared/is visible from it, and they hold in place/sew (E) with their head covers/covers on their collar opening in clothes/chests, and they do not show their decoration/beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, ........

We see that in all probability the word form "zeenatahunna" is related to a woman’s sexuality and pointing to a woman's figure in terms of buttocks and breasts/bosom. Both qualify as something difficult to conceal completely even under clothing. Hence, “except what appeared/is visible from it” refers specifically to buttocks and breast/bosom, it does not refer to anything other than the established subject matter of the verse. Linguistically as well, the absence of a specific subject in these words necessitate, that it must be related to the subject matter before it or after it or both. The use of the word "thahara" is again pure genius, it is a root word in itself and focuses on readily seen, visible, clear or obvious. The word is positioned between mentioning the area with the term "furoojahunna", which include the buttocks and the part of the verse that mentions the covering of the "juyoobihinna" breast/bosom, both universally associated with a woman’s sexuality. Both parts of body draw attention when one beats/swings/strikes foot/feet on the ground. And the use of word form "juyoobihinna" literary refers to "collar opening" or any opening in clothes hence the chest area or any other such opening. It's a simple matter of ensuring that the chest area is taken care of (a difficult area to hide with normal shirts or blouses most women will confirm) when it comes to "covering" which is the theme of related verse Quran 33:59.

Thus, it is clear from the verse, when in public, cover your buttocks and breasts with an outer garment in addition to normal clothing if the normal clothes are tight for instance while specifically ensuring that the neck opening is covered. Now under what conditions can a woman or young girl be seen with buttocks and breast not covered with a piece of cloth in addition to normal clothes. That would be a young girl or women in a home environment. Furthermore, under what conditions women can be seen, with partially exposed breasts that would be a young mother not fully covering the breasts at home while nursing a child for instance. This again would make sense, even in a joint family with servants; a nursing mother should not have to keep looking for corners to nurse her baby. Think not only of well-off large joint families with mansions to live in but large poor families living in cramped spaces.

Are there instances that women are exposing their buttocks or breasts fully or partially in public? So that an injunction is needed. Visit any European beach or numerous tribes in Africa and South America and you will find just that. Not to mention the evergreen fashion of the low cut dress.

Now if our analysis is correct, it simultaneously settles the debate about breastfeeding in public. Furthermore, it takes care of all kind of conditions for example; feeling comfortable in hot humid conditions or going out in windy conditions when the contour of a women body can become “apparent” so to speak. It also takes care of eliminating the potentially awkward situations that can result when your maternal or paternal uncles are visiting. Finally, a woman should be able to lower her guard at home and relax among her immediate family members.

The verse Quran 24:60 is a further indication that the relaxation must be the buttocks and breasts, otherwise what is she (older women) allowed to reveal other than her buttocks and breasts (face and hands have already been discounted, see above ) not covered by an additional outer garment or loose part of clothing since these two parts of the body of an older women cease to be associated with her sexuality. In fact the use of the word form thiyābahunna, meaning garments, general term, when referring to not obligated to cover, kind of dismiss the notion that the dress code has to be of a particular form and even the outer garment need not be always a Jalbab mentioned in 33:59 in the word form jalābībihinna.

Literal: And the menopausal/non-child bearing from the women, those who do not hope/expect marriage, so an offense/guilt/sin is not on them (F) that they put (on) their clothes/garments not showing off beauty/decoration with decoration/ornament , and that they be chaste/pure (is) best for them, and God (is) hearing/listening, knowledgeable. Quran 24:60

So now, let us look at the third verse related to dress code for females:

Literal: You, you the prophet, say to your wives and your daughters and the believers' women they (F) near (lengthen) on them from their shirts/gowns/wide dresses, that (is) nearer that (E) they (F) be known (better than being identified), so they (F) do not be harmed mildly/harmed, and God was/is forgiving, merciful. Quran 33:59

Even if we were to ignore the natural question "where" altogether, first of all, the tone of this verse is not an injunction or "Hukum" and the mentioning of wives and daughters of the Profit Pbuh places it in a specific time and circumstances. The drawing near or close as is indicated by the word "adna" will not only take care of the lengthening and drawing near of an outer garment or a loose part of a garment but at the same time take care of another aspect related to drawing the garment nearer in the verse. This, in fact, discourages the loose flowing garment style of the rich and royalty, which tend to be the opposite of modest attire. The specific reference to the wives and daughters of the Profit Pbuh is very significant and points to protocol. Thus, the reason for drawing the clothes nearer has to do with protocol, recognition, and not the transformation of women into a tent. Furthermore, the manipulation in terms of drawing near of the garment rule out the "burka", "abaya" and shuttlecock kind of dress requirement in public, which does not need drawing near or close. In any case, the word form "jalabeebihinna" has never been associated with a stitched outer garment.

The important thing in the verse is the reason for covering in a certain way. The reason, of course, being protected from harm so if one could be harmed by being identified then it would stand to reason not to stick out like a sore thumb. Once we accept the rationale behind it, it is rather pretty straightforward to set the guidelines for when to adopt which option. 

Now we can see that by not covering her buttocks and breast in public with an outer garment or a loose part of a garment, there is a strong possibility of a women’s breast being exposed either intentionally or due to the nature of the contours. (It is sometimes difficult to avoid exposure through the neckline). However, once covered by an additional outer garment or a loose part of a garment to what one would wear normally, the injunction of covering the breast specifically is satisfied and after that, if the contours are still apparent through one or possibly two layers of clothing then that is acceptable in a public space. (Note: in case the breast would be visible through the neckline, then only the outer garment or a loose part of a garment, one layer, will be doing the covering).

At the same time in a home environment if an additional cloth or cover is not drawn across a woman's buttocks or chest than that would be acceptable. This is the relaxation, which satisfies the husband, father, father in law etc at the same time. Similarly, a nursing mother would be acceptable in a home environment as it should be. I repeat, think not only of well-off large joint families but large poor families living in cramped spaces.

One cannot and should not draw a conclusion from the verse Quran 24:31 that merely identify what must be hidden in public without a clear focus on the relaxation aspect of the injunction, the relaxation must satisfy a comprehensive set of people as a group, this group is detailed, taking up more than half the length of the verse. It is a mistake to say, it is the face and the hands only or the entire body and then be dumbstruck when asked, what can I show to; both my husband and father in law simultaneously, for which I need a special injunction. There is no mention of degrees or implied degrees for the exact set of people; it is a black and white issue as far as the relaxation aspect goes. It is about a woman being able to relax in her own home.

Quran 33:59 has taken care of the body and perhaps the breast by the use of the words "adna" and "jalabeebihinna". But to ensure, as always when God wants us to do something specific or refrain from something specific God always spells it out in no ambiguous terms. Hence, dress injunction specific to covering the breasts is revealed in Quran 24:31, if the head or the face or any other part of the body were to be covered through these verses, God would have mentioned it specifically as always. Most conservative commentators have tried to focus on the incidental mention of "khimar" and "jilbab". They have then proceeded to try to define these terms to mean what they want them to mean without success. Let us keep in mind the fact that if God wanted to convey the sense that head covering was obligatory, He would have used a more specific word from the Arabic language, Quran is Revealed in the Arabic tongue and the Arabic language has more specific and restrictive words for a head cover and other articles of clothing used to cover various parts of the body; Ghifar, Rida, Miqna, Izaar, Milhafa and indeed Hijab (Hijab again is a Quranic term and the Quran does not use it as a head cover), or even "Niqab" to settle the issue as claimed by some commentators. Needless to say, they have failed in making a case for "Hijab" and covering of the head and hair. It appears that the tactic of focusing on the incidentals was and is aimed at deliberately muddling the issue sufficiently, to draw attention away from the clear message of modesty in these Quranic verses.

Let me add, Quran is a showpiece for Self-Reference, it was revealed when the very notion of Self- Reference was not yet established. The use of the word Khimar instead of a more specific word for a head cover clearly points to the logical conclusion that yes cover your chest with a head cover if you are wearing one. In case you are not wearing one then use any other article of clothing that is available. Hence yes wear a head cover by all means if the objective is to dress modestly but it is not mandatory. God's infinite wisdom shines through, Hijab by itself is not oppressive but declaring it obligatory invariably would have opened the door for people to use it for oppression. The evidence of it is for all to see, the sect scene's fixation on "Hijab" has done exactly that, the door is so wide open that closing it is now the defining battle.

The following verse settles the issue for me;

O children of Adam, We have bestowed upon you clothing to conceal your private parts and as adornment. But the clothing of righteousness - that is best. That is from the signs of Allah that perhaps they will remember. Quran 7:26

Furthermore, if one would compare the instruction of "Wadu" in the Quran to the above verses and go on and on about the sources of water used in the Wudu and write volumes on the temperature and quantity to be used, what kind of salts are allowed in the water, what shape and color containers to be used for the "Wudu" water and how to dispose of the water etc, the natural reaction would be, wait a minute, none of that is in the verse. It is surprising that a lot of Muslims have fallen for the sophistry and fail to ask the tough question that has a direct impact on their lives 24/7.

To sum it up, as far as the dress code of women in Islam goes, the logical aspects of all three verses are fulfilled and the linguistic constrained are satisfied. A woman should go in public by covering her body in general but breasts specifically with an outer garment or a loose part of a garment but can forgo the outer garment or not have to draw the loose part of a garment across the chest when at home. There are some commentators who say that not just the collar opening of the chest area but any opening in one's garments. Additionally, you may nurse your child in a home environment but you may not do it in public without covering your chest area. As always, keeping with the spirit of tolerance in Islam, if necessary, the nursing in public will be understandable either way.

The irony is that as usual in all these innovations, Quranic terms are plucked out from the Quran and used to define totally unrelated concepts, unsurprisingly "Hijab" has a very different meaning in the Quran as we all know.

The most important thing in trying to interpret the Quranic verses is to have firm belief in the wording of God and instead of looking for shortcomings, look for reason and logic because that is exactly what God wants us to do.

One last thing I feel compelled to add, it took over 1800 words to articulate the three verses comprising of just 300 or so words. The repetitions were intentional to avoid ambiguity. If you were to just follow the injections in these verses pertaining to the dress code of women in Islam instead of looking for hidden meanings and adding extra words in brackets then you would instinctively benefit from all the above verses, without having to analyze them.

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  1. I agree that before focusing on any one word or any hidden meanings we should just read the Quran for the general meaning, which is not difficult since the Quran is written in a very clear and direct manner that is easy to understand. However, as you know, there is not a word in the Quran that has been chosen "incidentally", and for this reason, I would disagree with this phrase "the incidental mention of 'khimar' and 'jilbab'". In the Arabic language, there are at least 5 other roots that mean “a cover or a covering or a veil” (please see http://quranicteachings.co.uk/khimar.htm), yet God chose khimar which most dictionaries define as "a piece of cloth with which a woman covers her head." I cannot help but wonder why? Of course, it is obvious that in verse 24:31, the focus is on covering the chest, but I do believe that God chose to use the word khumur for a reason. Whether or not that means hijab as most people believe today, I am not so sure.

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  2. You are right, every word in the Quran has a purpose,(I don't want to go into the specific meaning of the word khimar, which in itself is a separate debate) my comment of incidental has more to do with the obligation element of it and to some extent to address the cultural element of it. A reference to a loose head cover normally worn in those days that can be manipulated easily to cover your chest area, would be the easiest way to get the point across. Whenever we are not specifically instructed to do something or not do something, the logic should be, as you indicated, it must be a matter of flexibility and we as individuals must decide on our individual circumstances and environment. What I object to is this whole sale bullying of one of the most vulnerable section of any community, young teenage girls. the other thing I object to is the shape of the Hijab as worn by some now days, honestly you need lessons in origami to get it right :)

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  3. At the risk of being accused of confirmation bias, I will also leave you with Asad's take on the verse Quran 24:31

    And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms [in public] beyond what may [decently] be apparent thereof; [My interpolation of the word "decently" reflects the interpretation of the phrase illa ma zahara minha by several of the earliest Islamic scholars, and particularly by Al-Qiffal (quoted by Razi) as "that which a human being may openly show in accordance with prevailing custom (al-adah al-jariyah)". Although the traditional exponents of Islamic Law have for centuries been inclined to restrict the definition of "what may [decently] be apparent" to a woman's face, hands and feet - and sometimes even less than that - we may safely assume that the meaning off illa ma zahara minha is much wider, and that the deliberate vagueness of this phrase is meant to allow for all the time-bound changes that are necessary for man's moral and social growth. The pivotal clause in the above injunction is the demand, addressed in identical terms to men as well as to women, to "lower their gaze and be mindful of their chastity": and this determines the extent of what, at any given time, may legitimately - i.e., in consonance with the Quranic principles of social morality - be considered "decent" or "indecent" in a person's outward appearance.] hence, let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms. [The noun khimar (of which khumur is the plural) denotes the head-covering customarily used by Arabian women before and after the advent of Islam. According to most of the classical commentators, it was worn in pre-Islamic times more or less as all ornament and was let down loosely over the wearer's back; and since, in accordance with the fashion prevalent at the time, the upper part of a woman's tunic had a wide opening in the front, her breasts cleavage were left bare. Hence, the injunction to cover the bosom by means of a khimar, (a term so familiar to the contemporaries of the Prophet) does not necessarily relate to the use of a khimar as such but is, rather, meant to make it clear that a woman's breasts are not included in the concept of "what may decently be apparent" of her body and should not, therefore, be displayed.] And let them not display [more of] their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' Sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are beyond all sexual desire, [I.e., very old men. The preceding phrase "those whom they rightfully possess" (lit., "whom their right hands possess") denotes slaves; but see also second note on verse 58.] or children that are as yet unaware of women's nakedness; and let them not swing their legs [in walking] so as to draw attention to their hidden charms [Lit., "so that those of their charms which they keep hidden may become known", The phrase yadribna bi-arjulihinna is idiomatically similar to the phrase daraba bi-yadayhi fi mishyatihi, "he swung his arms in walking" (quoted in this context in Taj al-Arus), and alludes to a deliberately provocative gait.] And [always], O you believers - all of you - turn unto God in repentance, so that you might attain to a happy state! [The implication of this general call to repentance is that "since man has been created weak" 4:28, no one is ever free of faults and temptations - so much so that even the Prophet used to say, "Verily, I turn unto Him in repentance a hundred times every day" (Ibn Hanbal, Bukhari and Bayhaqi, all of then, on the authority of Abd Allah ibn Umar).]

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  4. Sadly, "whole sale bullying" does not seem to be that far from the truth. As a new convert to Islam researching this issue, I am surprised at the way most scholars promote hijab as a commandment from God when there is no clear ruling in the Quran that says so. And in that regard I would agree with your usage of "incidental".
    I still cannot get over "khimar" though: One difference that I have noticed between the Bible and the Quran is that the narrations in the Bible are often set in heavily local contexts with many cultural and historical references, whereas the Quran is written in a way that often only the essential lesson of each narration is presented. In other words, Quran has a unique timeless quality that allows it to transcend culture and history, and this of course makes sense because the message of the Quran is directed to the whole of mankind and it is also the very last warning from God. However, with such understanding, I find the usage of khimar to be intriguing. Assuming the sole purpose of this part of the sentence is to instruct women to cover their chests--theoretically, God could simply say cover your chest without ever mentioning any kind of "cloth", right? I am sure if God said that, the Arabian women at the time still would have covered their chests in some way (even if they weren't told to cover with the khimar) --Yet, God did mention the headscarf. Why?
    Perhaps some of my confusion rests upon that "separate debate" of the word khimar, or perhaps I am thinking too much about this one word. In any case, I would appreciate any answer you might have. Jazakallah khair.

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  5. I see that you are fixated on the use of the word Khimaar :) I can direct you the various debates on the matter but none of them are conclusive. In one even the very logical possibility of God wanted women to use the Khimaar to cover their chest instead of their head is raised. By the same token why didn't God use the word "Ghifara", it has even a stronger connotation of a head gear.

    It is true that most Arabic dictionaries agree that Khimaar means some sort of head-covering but we also must take into account that dictionaries are not a very good reflection of the language of the street, they on average are 10 odd years too late to catch up with the street even in the information age. Thus it would not be out of the question to speculate that those in authority could have directed the compilers to support a certain meaning. I know this is more of deflective argument but jsut the same a possibility however remote.

    In my experience whenever God leaves an issue open to interpretation, He does so out of mercy by giving us room to adjust depending on our individual circumstances or the prevailing socio-political environment. No matter how you look at it there is no slam dunk evidence to support the position that it is an obligation for Muslim women to cover their heads.

    That still leaves the issue of the word Khimaar. Quran has internal checks and balances to nudge us whenever we are stuck. The words Khimaar and all its variations is used 7 times:

    l-khamru(ٱلْخَمْر) noun (5:90:5) ... the intoxicants

    khamrin (خَمْرٍ) noun (47:15:20) ... wine

    l-khamri (ٱلْخَمْرِ) noun (2:219:3)...[the] intoxicants
    (5:91:10) ... intoxicants

    khamran (خَمْرًا) noun (12:36:10) ... wine."
    (12:41:7) ... wine;

    bikhumurihinna (بِخُمُرِهِنَّ) noun (24:31:16) ... their head covers/covers

    As you can see there is no clear cut definition except the general notion of covering with the last one a solitary definition of head cover.

    The only indication from the usage is that in each instant it is a noun and the form "bikhumurihinna" points to an thing as opposed to the act of covering.

    However when we are unable to determine a definite position from the use of a word or term the next thing to look for is specific injunctions which may cover the issue in question.

    To understand something we sometimes need to look at it from the other way around. First let me point out the fact that Quran has made unlawful for us less than a couple of dozen things/people/acts. The general rule is permissibility with unlawful injunctions making up the exceptions. Now keeping this general principle in mind we should start asking specific questions.

    Is it forbidden for a woman to show her hair in public?
    Is it forbidden for a woman to go out in the street without her headgear ?
    Is it forbidden for a woman to show her ears in public ?

    If we are unable to show a clear yes for any of the above statements from the verses of the Quran then it would be wrong to assume it is so.

    If one would deliberately firm up a position for which there is no clear injunction then the onus is clearly on the claimer and not the challenger.

    The funny thing to note is the fact that there isn't a single Mutawatir report supporting this position.

    The only thing left to be said is that if you feel more comfortable wearing a head cover of some sort then please do, by the same logic if a fellow Muslim feels she can fulfill her obligation of dressing modestly without the head gear then we should respect her interpretation as well. And this is all I set out to make a case for :)

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    1. hi life guru
      thanks to you and an egypt woman blog,
      i now more believe of what i have been thinking since i was a kid

      until today i also am like you, analysing and studying religion
      high and low although most moslems find it not good to go beyond
      what is generally accepted.

      i live in malaysia and i realize that my entourages would be sad if I tell them this - that i never believe head scarf is obligatory And i want to remove it

      the dilemma makes me somehow feel uneasy. sometimes i don veil sometimes i dont. it also makes me feel how lucky being a man is.
      see islam , oh the so called good moslem scholars has created what we see today as unfairness and oppression

      i really want to take it off permanently though i know my parents will feel disappointed. they wont kill me like some restricted countries
      but how do i explain .

      where do you live life guru?

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    2. neuroneuster @Salam, Thank you for following the blog. I agree with you on the "scholars" point :)

      Your situation is ever so common, most Muslim Parents are obviously loyal to their respective sects and are very mindful of the accompanying community pressures. As I repeatedly tell people, the objective behind this post was to point out that the popular Hijab as worn by most is not an obligation. However I am not against the head covering as such.(obviously not the suffocating, no hair showing absurdity one).

      It will all depend on the prevailing standard of dressing modestly in your community. Needles to say you still should have a choice but if you fear it will pose a major problem for your parents then best to avoid confrontation. However if you live in a community where Hijabis are in a small minority then I would try to make the parents understand that the Hijab is drawing undue attention towards you and defeating the purpose of dressing modestly. I know Malaysia is quite mixed but again I guess it depends on which city etc

      Besides once you move out of your parents house you will be able to make a more free decision on the issue. Just hang in there for now :)

      @I like to tell people that I live on the third rock from the sun.
      @ Please do share with everyone the "egypt woman blog"

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  6. Thank you for your response! It is very clear, and I definitely feel more at ease now concerning khimaar lol. I agree with what you said: "when God leaves an issue open to interpretation, He does so out of mercy by giving us room to adjust depending on our individual circumstances or the prevailing socio-political environment." I had just been a little confused because many Muslims agree (with "most scholars" I suppose) that wearing the headscarf is obligatory. I can see by now that this is not the case.

    Personally, I don't think I would feel more comfortable wearing a headscarf since I live in a non-Muslim country and do not like to draw attention to myself, but I guess there are also some Muslims who realize that headscarf is not obligatory but simply wear it to affirm their Muslim identity, and frankly I think these women are very courageous. I just wish that people could stop saying that it is a SIN not to wear one :/

    Anyway, thanks again! :)

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  7. You are a Quranist ( someone who rejects Sunnah/hadith), your interpersonal introspective do not represent Islam.

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  8. I am a Muslim and those who sees Muslim in terms of sect members only have been brainwashed by the Mullahs who definitely does not represent Islam.

    As to your other comments, its my neck hence my interpretations :) my eternity depends on it. Do you really think I will abandon the certainty of the Quran for a "so and so said so" nonsense passed on as sayings of the Prophet Pbuh, the best Sunnah of the Prophet Pbuh is found in the Quran. The rest of the reports from secondary sources are up to us to verify and then decide whether to accept them or reject them depending on the evidence and adhering to the standard of evidence spelled out in the very words of God.

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  9. I agree with what you are saying.
    But to me the fact that the Khimar was mentioned and not rejected must mean that it was in compliance with God's order. If it was sinful it would be rejected and if it was up to us we would have been told. To me, it seems that we are to wear head coverings and use the remaining cloth from the head covering to conceal our chests.
    'and they hold in place/sew (E) with their head covers/covers on their collar opening in clothes/chests'
    That seems quite clear. It seems to clearly say that we must use the head covers to cover our breasts.

    I think the issue is whether we should show our necks and ears. That is what is not specified.
    I do agree that the verse is open to interpretation so that the Qur'an may remain timeless and may travel over all cultures. But there is nothing to suggest we musn't cover our hair.

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  10. K.NadaQueVer@ I agree with you 100% when you say "I do agree that the verse is open to interpretation so that the Qur'an may remain timeless and may travel over all cultures. But there is nothing to suggest we musn't cover our hair"

    I will repeat my comments above - If you feel more comfortable wearing a head cover of some sort then please do, by the same logic if a fellow Muslim feels she can fulfill her obligation of dressing modestly without the head gear then we should respect her interpretation as well. And this is all I set out to make a case for :) Thanks for you comments

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  11. I must not have made myself clear.
    When I said "But there is nothing to suggest we musn't cover our hair" I guess the right way would have been. "There is nothing to suggest we must UNcover our hair"
    The fact that the Qur'an states that we must use our HEAD covers to cover our bosom obviously means we must not uncover our hair.

    I meant interpretation as to how you cover, the styles of scarf, whether you cover your ears or not. Not covering the hair is not an interpretation it is a misinterpretation. i fully understand if some sisters are not ready or able but I do not agree with the idea claiming that it is in line with what the Creator wants.

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  12. Uncover is only possible when certainty of covering can be established,once again the incidentals have taken center stage from what you are trying to establish. The reality is captured by Asad above, I will repost the relevant part again; "According to most of the classical commentators, it was worn in pre-Islamic times more or less as all ornament and was let down loosely over the wearer's back; and since, in accordance with the fashion prevalent at the time, the upper part of a woman's tunic had a wide opening in the front, her breasts cleavage were left bare. Hence, the injunction to cover the bosom by means of a khimar, (a term so familiar to the contemporaries of the Prophet) does not necessarily relate to the use of a khimar as such but is, rather, meant to make it clear that a woman's breasts are not included in the concept of "what may decently be apparent"

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  13. Labeling you as a quranist is not correct because one actually needs to follow the Qur'aan (to be called a Quranist)! This might be a surprise for you that the Qur'aan provides evidences for the hijaab and niqaab!

    "And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. (An-Nur 24:31"

    So basically here in your blog you are portraying your own opinions without any concrete evidences!

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    1. All I see is restrictions on women.Chaste women should lower their gaze and cover their bosoms.What about the restrictions on chaste men or are there no chaste men.Should they not lower their gaze and cover up their private parts and not think lewd thoughts about women.In short "chaste" men follow the same rules you enjoin upon women.Finally if you so called pious men can control lust there would be no need to impose unneccessary restrictions on women.Men should learn to respect women and do not treat them as sex objects and remember they are equal in the eyes of God so who are we to differentiate.May the Almighty guide you so called pious people to realize the fallacy of your ideas.Better still you should start wearing chastity belts, so you can keep your hands away from good women.Khuda Hafiz

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  14. Anonymous@ you got that right, it is my interpretation and you know why ? First I will politely ignore your call to "scholar up" I have no wish to mindlessly cram the seriously outdated Dars-e-Nizami and the likes.

    As to the why; Because I am an individual Muslim that's who I am, who was gifted a soul by my Maker and I was raised above Angels and Jinns and then I was gifted with the Quran through the Prophet Pbuh and preserved by God Himself. It is the same Quran that found me and ordered me to use my brains to understand it and the sole responsibility of understanding the Quran was put on my shoulders and was told that I will be standing in front of my Maker alone on the Judgmental Day. With the help of this guide of guides I was able to figure out all this and my objective in life here on Earth and the hereafter was all made clear to me. That is who I am, a slave of my maker. Thus I have interpreted exactly how the Prophet Pbuh conveyed to the whole of humanity. If anybody thinks different then bring forth your proof :)line by line.

    And don't forget it it is my neck on the line and my eternity depends on getting it right, do you honestly believe I am going to sit here and break my exclusivity of belief in One God and go for "so and so said so" nonsense without demanding proof. Proof at par with what God has instructed me to live by.

    The source of all fitnah in Islam is the vast number of fabricated reports wrongly ascribed to our Prophet Pbuh. Calling out these fabrication is my duty and so should be yours.

    Did you not notice the zillion brackets in the translation you posted. You do know that whatever is inside the brackets means it is absent from the Arabic text :) In fact some of the words, like "veils", which are outside the brackets are also not to be found in the original text.

    Who said I am a Quran only Muslim: Bring me as many mutawatr, Sahih and bil laf Ahadith you can dig up :)

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  15. I still didnt find a conclusion about you, are you a Quranist or not?
    and the last two words before the smiley 'dig up' seem disrespectful, are you disrespecting the hadith?
    Although there is an extreme lack of genuine ulema these days, and we need more people (maybe like you :)) who arent mullahs

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  16. Just to confirm, calling myself a Muslim is enough for me, I can live with other Muslims having a different point of view and I don't view it as a problem that on the off chance some might confuse me with the "other" Muslims.

    I dare not call myself an Alim, I am a student of Islam and I am happy to continue to be one ...

    As far as the question of respect is concerned, I have no respect for liars and even less for those who repeat lies without investigating them, the bulk of Hadith literature falls under this. My point of the smile was that many Muslims are unaware of the fact that the total number of mutawatr Ahadith number around a dozen and when you add the condition of Sahih and bil laf to them, the total drops to around half a dozen. You tell me how to base a Deen on only half a dozen reports that can truly be ascribed to Prophet Mohammad Pbuh. That leaves the Quran by default as the almost exclusive source of our Deen. Hence in principle I am open to Hadith but refuse to accept the traditionalist's criteria for determining their truth :)

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  17. "half a dozen" now that's ridiculous, so what are these hadith that u believe in?

    dont you believe in the hadith:
    "My ummah will be divided into seventy three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except one" [Saheeh Muslim, no.976]

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  18. Anonymous@ let me rant a bit :) The problem with most people can be traced to the the fact that they are unable to understand God's insistence that "belief" must be exclusively reserved for Him, even that after verification and validation Quran 23:117. They keep on confusing this issue and when asked why is it that you insist on following the Ahadith blindly, they turn around and say; it is our belief.

    Obviously one cannot believe in a Hadith, you can only validate it as authentic or not, with evidence. The difference between most Muslims and some of us is that most Muslims trust the verification of others and don't question their claims, not realizing that they will not be exonerated if the claim turns out to be false.

    In other words this responsibility of verification cannot be passed onto those you trusted to do your verification for you.

    I repeat, there is no notion of "believing" a secondary source that is not the very word of God. Just because some sects try and pass on the Hadith literature as revelations doesn't make it so and besides, it can be very easily refuted.

    The thing about Islam is that it is very easy for someone (both Muslim and non Muslim) to determine what Islam is. Muslims believe (some after verification others without it ) that Quran is the very word of God. Hence this effectively becomes their primary source of determining what their beliefs ought to be.

    Then there are a host of secondary sources, none sanctioned by the primary document. Please don't throw "obey the messenger" at me, I have no issue with obeying the messenger, however you still have to determine what was said. These secondary sources either attempt to "explain" the primary document or in some instances attempt to overrule it.

    Needless to say these attempts have nothing to do with Islam unless the standards of verifications detailed in the Quran are applied, irrespective of who is claiming it to be Islamic.

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  19. So how do i know how to pray salat, how long to fast, how to time the prayers, et.c.?
    If ur not an alim dont talk so confidently, how about doing istikhara before replying, i wud appreciate that
    or are you just another illuminati henchman?

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  20. Anonymous@ These all very easy and can easily be found in the Quran, maybe you should read it :) just ask your Alim, how do they know there are two rakat Fard in the Fajr prayer ?

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  21. Assalam 'alaikum. I understand your belief in staying true only to the words of Allah, but you also need to realise that both the Quran and the ahadeeth were transmitted by means of the sahabah. If one were to say that the ahadeeth that they trasmitted is not trustworthy, it's almost as if one were to say that they can't be trusted in transmitting the Quran as well. Wallahua'lam.

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  22. Anonymous@ Salam, Its not the same, please read this (link below) before you are sucked into this obviously flawed argument:)

    http://lifecheat.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-we-must-never-equate-hadith-with.html

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  23. but some parts of life arent described in detail in the quran, so hadith are needed often like zakat or divorce or how to fast etc.
    (im the previous anonymous

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  24. The absence of detail does not necessarily mean that the current practices of most Muslims are correct and an extension of God's injunctions.

    The purpose of leaving certain details for us to workout depending on our circumstances is perfectly inline with God's mercy and His promise that He will not put undue burden on us. If God's intension was for us to follow those injunctions where details have been left out in a specific way then what would have prevented Him from revealing a Quran 2 ? Why would He make His injunctions dependent on men ?

    Its mind boggling to think that God wanted us to first wait a couple of hundred years after declaring the perfection and completeness of the religion. Then trust that a few gentlemen will sift through hundreds of thousand of Hadiths, within an impossible schedule. Verify each Hadith as either true or false without making a single mistake, then declare around 1% as authentic and reject 99% as not worthy of saving. To further confuse us, the gentlemen failed to agree on which 1% to save. Once done we should ignore the obvious contradictions in this body of Hadith and accept every word as true and beyond challenge. Then shape our every living moment around this “infallible” body of knowledge, accept the “consensus of scholars” that this is what is meant by obeying God and obeying the messenger. I am sorry but you have to be cuckoo to fall for this.

    Furthermore while God repeatedly inform us that Quran is easy to understand, we must surrender to the notion of an external "explanation" from secondary sources to explain the explanation (Quran 11:01 and 75:19) of God and even that for only 86 out of 114 chapters (Bukhari's missing explanations). In fact we must rollover to the notion that these secondary explanation can only be explained in turn by someone who must attend certain institutions for a decade or so while God does not impose any such condition on His explained verses of the primary document.

    The funny part is wherever we could actually use some help like what are al-huroofe-Muqatiaat then those same experts have no explanation except what we already know that God knows. Not only that but in the absence of any Sahih Hadith on the explanation of these al-huroofe-Muqatiaat they somehow are able to declare that "only" God knows their significance hence "assuming" an explanation without any "explanation" that God would include certain elements in a message meant for us that only He would know the meaning of. The real question; why would God do that? Again no explanation.

    Coming to the absence of detail for example on Salat, if they are able to offer "two" rakat Fard of Fajr without the aid of any Sahih Hadith then what is preventing them for doing the same for the other Salats ?

    And for those who insist on improving the perfect message where God Himself is the teacher. These are the same people who jump at every opportunity to challenge those who have understood the deliberate room for flexibility of some injunctions like the exact manner of salat for instance, all in line with God's promise of no undue burden. Ironically they are totally oblivious to the contradiction of their poor logic. For example, when even the detail of something like Wudu is spelled out in the Quran, they still insist on improving God's perfection. The following verse expose their argument of "explaining" and even correcting Quran.

    Literal And if (it was) said to them: "Do not corrupt in the earth/Planet Earth." They said: "But we are correcting/repairing ." Quran 2:11

    If you are speculating as to who these correcting, repairing busy bodies are, the following verse emphasis it by the word “most”, something to think about.

    Literal And if you obey (follow) most of who (is) in the earth, they misguide you from God's way/path , that they follow except the assumption/suspicion , and that they (are) except lying/speculating. Quran 6:116

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  25. U still didnt tell me how to pray

    dont tell me, u use freemasonry?

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  26. I pray the same way you pray the 2 rakat Fard for Fajr, so now tell me how do you pray "two" rakat Fard for Fajr ? and you will have my answer :)

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  27. i mean is it okay to just pray like my parents/teachers have taught me, and leave it to Allah to accept it, with out considering any other minor sects that like to pray differently?

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  28. Sure it is OK except make the necessary adjustments so as not to go against the Quran. Salat has to be for God Alone. Period. To include the name of any Prophet Pbut or any Imam is plain wrong, even if it to ask God to send grace and honour on them. You can always do that after you have finished Salat. One thing is for sure, the Prophet Phuh never asked God to send grace and honour on himself. Iyyaka na'budu wa iyyaka nasta'een (You alone we worship and to you alone we pray for help).

    The rest of the traditional Salat is good as long as you know Arabic if not then better pray in a language you understand well.

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  29. You are either very childish, or a 19-ist

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  30. Anonymous@ Brilliant analysis :) which part of my comments are childish and which are, as you put it, "19-ist" whatever that means to you. As I have elsewhere quoted when everything else fails there is always Ad hominem to fall back on.

    Getting back to the point, so once again; tell me, how did you determined (or whoever taught you) to pray "two" rakat Fard for Fajr ? Could it be that you are avoiding to answer this direct question because that would expose the entire premise of "without Hadith, how would you know how to pray", the logic is simple; by whichever way you determined that there are two rakat in the Fajr prayer, by the same route you can determine the entire manner and details of Salat :)

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  31. I just mean it was childish of you to assume the saying the name of a prophet in salat was wrong, remember INTENTIONS, we say durood while sitting because Allâh (AZ,SWT) loves it
    btw, im starting to believe everthing you say (xept for the above ofcourse) so tell me, is masturbating allowed?
    and also, is it better to use Az Zawajal or Subhana wa ta3ala?

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  32. Hey this is really confusing, i need some help as to what u saying during prayer, do u say prophet muhammed pbuh name at all? Wow i do and wen saying ur shahada u say muhammed pbuh name dont you?

    the hijab conflict i am also experiencing some doubt in wearing one ive worn it since i was 12 and i am now 17 and i have doubts if it is fard or not

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  33. No it is not :)Nothing is confusing if one leaves the last test of any Matter of Deen to the very word of God. Which means listen to others, including scholars (not Mullahs)but verify it for yourself through one single book the Quran. It cannot be any more simple.

    The question of should one wear the Hijab or not depends on where you live. One thing is for sure it is not an obligation (Fard)

    If you live in a community where wearing it is the common practice then there is no harm in it (but not the suffocating version popularized through sect games, no showing hair and all that nonsense) as long as one wears it as part of ones attire to dress modestly, the only dress code requirement as per the quran for both men and women. On the other hand if one is likely to stick out as sore thumbs then better not to wear it because that will defeat the purpose of dressing modestly, that is to not draw attention to oneself.

    If someone is likely to wear it as religious exhibitionism then definitely not, Hijab as a search for identity is also to be discouraged. A Muslim must be known by his/her conduct and ethics and not a piece of clothing.

    It is also important to point out that Niqab version of covering up is exihibitioism and voyeurism both rolled into one. While forcing Niqab on women is nothing short of criminal and finally it is actually a crime in some countries but opting for one is nothing short of social dishonesty and raisies serious questions; does an individual has the right to be anonymous in a public place ? Obviously not.

    As to my personal way of practicing, I follow the Quran as did the Prophet Mohammad Pbuh. Please read my post here for further clarification http://lifecheat.blogspot.com/2011/06/individual-vs-community.html

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  34. "my efforts are directed towards identifying and exposing all corrupt and stealth innovations"

    I think what you were trying to say is :"my efforts are directed towards introducing corrupt innovations to Islam"

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  35. Name one :) and back it up with evidence consistent with the standards of evidence detailed in the Quran, the very word of God.

    I am tempted to post the following, which can be found elsewhere on the blog;

    Inquirer : Is stoning an Islamic punishment
    Mullah pet : Yes it is
    Inquirer : Is it in the Quran
    Mullah pet : No but it is in the Hadith (Sold as "sayings" of the the Prophet Pbuh)
    Inquirer : Did the Prophet Pbuh actually said so ?
    Mullah pet : Well not exactly but others report that this was the practice.
    Inquirer : So the Prophet Pbuh never actually said to replace the 100 lashes of the Quranic punishment for adultery with stoning.
    Mullah pet : If his companions said so it is good enough for me.(classified as anyone who saw the Prophet Pbuh)
    Inquirer : Since Hadith literature is sold as not contradicting the Quran, what are the basis for changing the clearly worded verse on this particular subject?
    Mullah pet : Abrogation of course
    Inquirer : And in that case there must be dozens of Hadith to support this game changing notion of abrogation right?
    Mullah pet : Well actually, no there are no Hadith to support abrogation but our Mullahs say so. 
    Inquirer: So basically what you are saying is that a group of Mullahs can in practice overrule the Quran ?
    Mullah pet: You are a Kafir

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  36. I am happy you realise that you are a kafir.
    :)
    Now don't go around saying you are Muslim.

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  37. So by that same shockingly poor logic that makes you a Mullah pet:) May God gives you and all those Muslims that are under the thumb of these Mullahs the courage to break free. Only then you will be able to appreciate the message of God as delivered by the messenger. The same messenger whose name and life is tarnished by the Mullahs day in and day out. And for what? A few pieces of silver?

    Yes you are right, I am not the Mullah type of Sunni/shia/sofi/salafi/Ahle Sunnat Wal Jama'at Muslim. I am a Muslim Muslim and there is nothing you can do about it :)

    (that last one always makes me laugh)

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  38. In todays world of ignorance, it's impossible to spread your noble cause :(
    People just love theri hijabs

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  39. I agree that the Quran may not have certain things (prayer, hajj) detailed so that we can use our own free will to conduct these acts and we will be judged by God alone. Regarding hijab/ modest dress, I live in a non-Muslim country and choose to wear a head covering in addition to loose clothing because I feel protected from my own vanity and I feel closer to God when I do so. I am a convert and may attract some attention (i.e stares) but 'sticking out' shouldn't deter a person from observing their faith, regardless of what they are doing as act of submission to God. Whether its not wearing a bikini/speedo at a beach, stepping in to stop a fight, or conducting prayer in corner of a crowded mall, a Muslim needs to make the choice to stand out if necessary.

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  40. srsmiley333@ Thank you for visiting and following the blog. The main objective of this particular post was and is to determine whether Hijab/Niqab is Fard (obligatory)or not, this is important because of the way this issue has been used by the religious cabal to subjugate woman all over the world. Needless to say a woman should be free to determine what constitute modest dress. The operative word is "free".

    Hence you are always free to wear a Hijab (head cover) if the objective is to dress modestly and or as you put it "feel protected from my own vanity". I maintain the head cover itself is not obligatory as long as dressing modestly is attempted and generally accepted by the community one lives in. This I feel is important, if one were to ignore the environment then the objective of wearing a head cover shifts to identity or even exhibitionism of the type "look at me I am a Muslim" and thus defeat the modesty principle behind it of "don't look at me, I am not on display".

    Besides what happened to a muslim should be recognized by the qualities of truthfulness, humbleness, generosity and courage for the right reasons :)

    Besides I feel if an action is counter productive it should be revisited and adjusted accordingly but firmly within God's injunctions.

    Perhaps you may want to read my post on the issue here http://lifecheat.blogspot.com/2010/03/niqab-hijab-and-beard.html

    Thanks again and feel free to correct me.

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  41. Hey there,

    I'm a revert of almost 7 years and only recently stopped wearing hijaab because of these exact reasons you talk of. I had been told over and over that it was obligatory and not until I did my own research that I found it was not and only modest dress was spoken of. I consider myself Muslim - I don't identify with sects as I have always rejected the idea of them - and I only follow the quran seeing as so many hadith are rejected as not being 'authentic' - what makes the authentic ones authentic then?
    Anyway, since taking off the hijaab I feel stronger - I am a better muslim now because before I was so hell-bent on appearance rather then what was truly important.
    I'll be following you more I think! Salaams :)

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  42. Thank you Alysha for following the blog, the great thing about our beautiful Deen is to be able to verify and understand God's message for our self, in our individual capacity. srsmiley333 (previous comment)feels more at ease with wearing one and feels it empowers her in dealing with her vanity, I, like you think it is not necessary and just focus on dressing modestly. The wonderful thing to note is that in this particular injunction as per the verses of the Quran we all are right.

    The problems starts when some among us abandon the principles of moderation and commit the mistake of assuming that there is "something", outside of the clear worded text of the Quran, which has assigned a certain "fixed" implied meaning to God's word(s). The result is a sect like rigidity. The same rigidity when forced on others creates friction and ultimately Fitna.

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  43. Thank you for posting this, but I have a question, Is a Muslim women allowed to sing in public? 'Cause when we sing, we make our voices beautiful but we're not conversing with men. :/ We're only singing. and when men sing, they also make their voices beautiful. :/

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  44. There is no prohibition on singing and since we are discussing prohibition then obviously i am referring to the singing in public.

    Your comment seems to imply that conversing in a beautiful voice is prohibited as per Quran 33:32. First of all the verse is directly addressed to the wives of the Prophet and not followed by "and the believing women" and has to be understood in light of the verse Quran 33:53 where there is specific prohibition to marry the wives of the Prophet Pbuh after his death. Since there was no Prohibition to marry them while he was alive the code of conduct emphasized is to prevent any situation where by the wife of the Prophet Pbuh would end up marrying someone else. There are several other related verses as to why the steps to prevent it are necessary and detailed in the verses but the point I am making here is that it is a very specific injunction for the wives of the Prophet Pbuh, if those that try to make it applicable on all woman then they have to do it in totality that would mean no widow is allowed to remarry for instance. That in it self creates contradiction with yet other verse of the Quran. When you tamper with perfection of God expect chaos :)

    Hence no verse of the Quran specifically prohibit singing either out right or by implication unless we are prepared to accept conclusions two orders removed from the visible audible words of God. Now that does not mean anything goes we still have to do it in keeping all other injunctions of God in mind. The content of the songs and the manner in which it is delivered must be done with common sense and very well thought through .

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    1. I have a very simple solution.Whatever is not specifically forbidden in the Quran is allowed in Islam

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  45. Dear Life Guru,It's shocking for me to find that when u r arguing on the issue 'Head covering mandatory or not',some people are trying to prove that Burqa is fard!A few days back a very eminent scientist cum writer of my contry wrote some lines in a national daily about burqa which is now a very hot topic.Many are branding him as 'an enemy of Islam'.I wish u could see those blogs and comments but those are written in my native language.Someone commented on a blog this way.-"Why does Quran 24:31 orders women to cover thier bosoms with headcover and give a list of men in front of whom pardah can be relaxed?Is it lawful to expose women's private parts in front of close males except husbands?This ayah says that only face,hands,feet etc can be shown to mahrams and when going out a woman should observe full pardah only eyes & clothes should be shown."He also referred Quran 33:59 claiming that "It says 'Draw thier viels over them',not over thier head.It means full burqa,not headscarf".This man claims that he knows arabic and doesn't depend on translations.Many have opposed him but he's stuck to his position saying that this is how the wives & daughters used to maintain modesty.So,no relaxation is allowed here!So,u can see that,this man is not considering hadiths,rather he's adhered to the burqa and niqab just by Quran alone!

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  46. Salam,

    I've reread this post many times, but never posted till now, I hope you remember me :).

    Before reading this post, as well as others, which easily disprove the concept of "illa ma zahara minhaa" referring to the face and hands, I had been at hardship with the very idea. I identified as a Sunni (Hadithist, I call it now)and simply couldn't reject the notion but at the same time thought it terribly wrong. So I asked that question on Y!A, and it was like God meant for you to answer it! :)

    Since then I've indulged more in the matter of women's dress-code, and I've found a little bit about 33:59 which is interesting: The verse was revealed at a time the Hypocrites were harassing women in Medina, and therefore the commandment was for women to "bring around them their cloaks" so that they wouldn't be harassed by these Hypocrites. Evidence for this is in the rest of the chapter (especially the following verse, verse 60) as well as Yusuf Ali's commentary (one I don't particularly favour, but nonetheless accurate this time around I believe).

    Keep rocking on, salam.

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  47. Salam, Of course I do. Please share how 33:60 can be put into context. The difficulty I have with mixing secondary sources with the word of God is that you open the door for all sorts of distortions.

    For example this very verse is used by some to justify the presence of Imams among us. I prefer simply trying to understand the words of God, using our God given abilities, and find its relevance to all situations and all times. Once done, it is much easier to decide if a particular injunction is to set limits or to be applied as it is.

    Similarly we must understand that the Quranic injunctions were phased in over a period of two decades and done as a series of sets and not in isolation. And then there is the issue of enforcement. Who decides and what are the fallback positions?

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  48. Chapter 33, verse 60 reads:

    "If the Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is disease and those who stir up trouble in Medina do not cease (to do so), We will certainly stir you against them, and they will not live with you (people of Medina) as neighbours for much longer."

    The entire chapter speaks of the Hypocrites in Medina, thus it was revealed at a time Hypocrites flourished in the city. Verse 60 further proves that the previous verse (Jilbab verse) was revealed to protect the women of Medina from these Hypocrites until they ceased to be their neighbours (in other words until they were expelled from Medina).

    I think we could classify the Jilbab as a dress-code for women in harsh conditions, for instance when Hypocrites would be harassing Muslim women.

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  49. I get your point, my reservation to restricting the injunction to a certain dress code is the fact that it dilutes the essence of dressing modestly. For instance if we were to take the above as the criteria even in "Harsh Conditions" as you put it, how will it work in practice today? In fact the so called "Hijab" and I don't just mean the headscarf even though it is enough to trigger it but the Hijab as advocated by the traditionalist, how does it prevent harassment? In fact it is the very opposite. The Hijab when worn in a hostile environment of say a mid western town in America is a documented invitation to harassment.

    Similarly the Hijab does not (including the face veil) does not prevent woman from being harassed even in the so called Islamic societies, this fact is also very well documented.

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    1. Salam and thank you for visiting my humble blog, rest assured I am a Muslim :) Please research the dress code of women in the Quran and when you are finished doing so you will realize that the very word Hijab has nothing t do with an articles of clothing. So the real question to ask has to be who changed the meaning and why. Niqab is a totally different beast and as un-Islamic as they come. A socially dishonest practice with pagan origin. Please read the above post with an open mind instead of copy pasting from obviously sect centric sites. There is nothing to be proud of by proclaiming that you belong to a sect. All sects are illegal in Islam. Especially those that try to claim default status or the more comical "only true" sect :)

      May God show you the way and God bless you :)

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  50. I wrote quite a long comment but unfortunately my net cut off, so here's the short:

    The Jilbab, according to classical commentators, a bunch of "sahih" hadith, asbab an-nuzul, and every other secondary source (but put all together it makes quite a reliable one), was to identify the free women from the slave women until the Hypocrites were expelled, because the Hypocrites said they were harassing the women they thought were slaves. Tabari, in his Tafsir, puts it that the free and slave women alike used to roam freely exposing their hair and face, but then God ordered the free women to dress freely until the Hypocrites were expelled. I think this further proves that at ordinary times, the hair and face don't need to be covered.

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  51. I said "dress freely", I meant "dress differently".

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  52. Well if you don't need to cover your head in public. What about when your praying? I see where you are coming from but doesn't god say to wear it when praying.

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  53. There is no reference in the Quran to cover your head while praying or otherwise. In fact covering in general is often referenced in a negative manner in the Quran and in one particular verse is associated with garments in fact;

    And indeed, every time I invited them that You may forgive them, they put their fingers in their ears, covered themselves with their garments, persisted, and were arrogant with [great] arrogance. Quran 71:7

    Food for thought :)

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  54. So what are you supposed to wear? Whatever you feel comfortable in? 7:31: "O Children of Adam! Wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer." This verse suggests to wear something? Also why is the hijab recommended so much by so many people, why do so many believe in it? I agree that it doesn't stop from harassment. When i was in Egypt my cousins would get harassed with the hijab on and I would get harassed without the hijab on. So I then realized guys will look at you either way.

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  55. The head scarf obviously had a function in ancient times, otherwise, there would be no reason for women pre-dating the prophet pbuh to wear it. Also, head scarves are found in other cultures.

    The verse says "say to the believers" which I interpret to mean that the prophet pbuh was to tell the believers to change their ways and to be more modest by covering their chests with the clothes they had at their disposal, in this case the head scarf. But for me, it is call to modesty, to change their ways. If Allah really wanted women to cover their hair, he would say so.

    I believe that the verse in the Koran is not meant to be interpreted literally, but rather is a call for modesty. The Koran sets out what areas men should cover (the sexual area), and women are given the extra commandment to cover their chest area, which is also sexual. Both men and women have necks and hair, and let's be honest, a normal man does not get physically aroused when he sees a lady's neck, but just try to show me a man who doesn't get aroused at breasts.

    A literal interpretation of this verse would mean that a women, completely covered in a turtleneck and a heavy jacket, but having her "headscarf" tied up around her head, would be disobeying Allah's call for modesty, because she is not using her headscarf to cover her chest, but rather, a shirt and jacket. That just makes no sense.

    I personally believe that women in their hearts know what is modest and not, what gets a man's attention and what doesn't.

    I hate that the hijab is an outer superficial symbol of piousness. I know too many women who pretend to be pious under their hijab. Same goes for the man's beard, but that is another subject. Allah knows best.

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  57. WARNING AND BEWARE OF TEACHINGS LIKE THIS!!! I grew up strongly practicing, but I began to make compromises in my faith becuz of the prevailing western society around me and the lies from the news that made me think that orthodox islam is what led to radicalism. Next thing I new, I was rejecting hadiths altogether and stopped practicing things i deemed as "silly" or "unnecessary". I also started to attempt to make reasons for rejecting things that seemed too strict to me as being unnecessary such as the hijab just as Life Guru is doing. Eventually I got into philosophy and my mind began to drift farther and farhter away from islam. Eventually I stopped believing in the Quran altogether and began buying into the notion that religion was the source of division in the world and that we should only believe in God alone and no religion. Also with each step I was sinning more and more, it started with having a loose attitude when it came to mingling with women, then drinking, and I thought it was okay to go to parties and fornicate. Next thing I know, I smoked weed one day (which I had been doing for a while) and I experienced the worst torture in my life, it felt as though my mind had burst into flames and my thoughts were going out of control. I was extremely thirsty and Drinking water hurt my stomach and caused me to throw up. The mental pain and burning was so agonizing that I tried to kill myself 3 times but thanks to Allah my frends were there to stop me. It was as if I was getting a taste of hell while on earth. I was also talking as tho I was insane and saying strange things and most of it was all God, religion, and philosophy related. This continued until I recited Al-Fatiha by impulse and I slowly began to come back to normal and the pain wore of. Luckily Allah led me back to islam and to this day I still pray for forgiveness becuz of the shirk I commited- which we all know is the worst sin. Beware of making compromises in your faith and looking at things from a so called "modern" standpoint. May I remind you that orthodox islam is what led the world to become modern in the first place, but the West took God out of the picture and the muslims retreated away from all things modern in fear that they would do the same. Keep firm in your faith muslims and try to find the beauty in the practices and understand them and in the teachings of the Quran and Hadith in stead of rejecting them. One step leads to another and don't let things the world and your lack of understanding for the practices lead you away from Allah Subhanna wa Ta'alla. This guy calls himself LifeGuru so I assume that he goes to a university and is attending philosophy and religion classes just as I was. He seems like he is alot smarter than me tho and as tho he has alot more faith then I did back then, so I pray for his guidance and that Allah will bless him to see the beauty in what he is rejecting and not allow him to EVER slip from islam like I did. Ameen

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    1. Thank you for visiting my humble bloc again as I previously pointed out Islam is all about verification and validation. You are free to wear a Hijab but please don't try and distort the words of God and declare it a obligatory and by it I mean the suffocating over the top sect version of it.

      Islam is what God says it is in the official message delivered by the official messenger f God and not what somebody somewhere have determined for you.


      A lot of them are plant questions designed to trick young impressionable girls into believing that Hijab is central to their salvation. The truth as detailed in the Quran is obviously nowhere near the sect propagated position. As per the primary document the Quran there is no such thing as the Hijab. In fact this very Quranic term has nothing to do with an articles of clothing and the only injunction to do with dress code is all about dressing modestly both for men and women.

      The sect scene's fixation on dress code of women is understandable. Regimentation is the first prerequisite of control. Separation of the genders follow closely. Add no make-up to it and now you have the most visible indicators that can be used to subjugate half of humanity. The other half are given busy work to police the women. Perfect.

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    2. No brother. Out of all the muslim communities I've been to, even in the communities with the most strict sharia, there is no "policing of women"(except maybe in some salfi/wahabi communities but they are a community that also doesn't live by much of the Sunnah- they even planned to destroy the green dome over the Prophet's(PBUH) grave) and the hijab is clearly in the Quran:
      1. The Jilbâb (جلباب);
      The plural “jalâbîb” (جلبيب) is the word used in 33:59 where we see that women are told to “lengthen their jalâbîb”.
      There is no controversy about the word “Jilbâb” which means “over garment”, “loose outer covering”, woman’s gown.

      2. The “Khimâr” (خمار);
      The plural “Khumur” (خمر) is used in 24:31. Women are told “to draw their Khumur over their chests” and “not to reveal any of their attributes of beauty/adornments except that which is [manifestly] apparent” except to specific categories of people. The verb “daraba 'ala” is used to define the word “chests”, and means “to cover over” or “to draw”.

      Definition of Khimâr:
      Ø In the Quranic context of 24:31, a “Khimâr” is a piece of cloth or a scarf with which a woman covers her head, and which is long enough to cover other parts of the body since we see that women use it to cover their chests. The Khimâr covers the chest on top of the jilbâb (woman’s gown) they already wear (33:59): As we already mentioned, two separate words are therefore used to describe women’s dress code: The jilbâb and the Khimâr.
      The info above was taken from a Quranist website, so even though the muslims who wrote this reject hadith and believe in the Quran only just like you do, they do have good knowledge of arabic and Quran and any muslim who can read arabic can plainly see that covering of the hair and chest and a loose outer garment is clearly stated in the quran.
      Also brother, I urge you to visit as many muslim communities as you can find, whenever I go to one the people are so closely knit and the relationship between the guys and girls is one that is descent and does not cross any boundaries but yet that is not to the point were men and women are totally separated. In every community I have been to i have also seen that there is always at least a few women who have a very important role in community leadership, where I live a women is the principal of the islamic school. And no one is ever told that the hijab is "central to their salvation". The hijab and wearing of a loose outer garment is beautiful because it shows that a woman is not trying to attract to much attention to men and it they also make it to where a man is forced to look at a woman not as a body, as most men do, but as a human being. And why do people always make the hijab to be a form of "subjugation" or "oppression" we never here about catholic nuns being called opressed and their dress code is exactly the same. Also a very modest dress code is always one of the attributes of a pious woman, even my great grandmother, who was a very devout christian, would cover her legs ad hair whenever a man who was not apart of the family would visit her home. The hijab is an obligation because in islam it is an obligation to struggle to be pious and to have the highest moral standards. Allah says in the Quran that piety is the best clothing for a man and woman, and what is on the outside definitely reflects what is on the inside-this has been proven in science. If a woman is having problems with the islamic dress code, she should ask herself what within me is hindering me from it, and that is when she should began her jihad an nafs( her inner jihad) if she truly wishes to please Allah. The same for a man who is having trouble living by the degree of separation that Allah has made obligatory between men and women. and if a woman chooses not to wear it then that is between her Lord. And explain to me what you mean by this so called "busy work" brother?

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    3. *that is between her and her Lord.*

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  58. Islam is not based on "reviews" of others, it is all about research and understanding of God's words using the God given faculties of reason and logic and unlike the third parties review methodology, the reason and logic methodology have a huge advantage; everybody arrives at the same conclusion :)

    We must pray for those trapped in sect fueled environments to find the courage to renounce the sect scene and embrace the true beauty of Islam as detailed in the 100% verifiable word of God.

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  59. Islam is a COMPLETE way of life brother. And it governs all aspects of life. I noticed that people who reject much of the hadith and sunnah of the prophet go either one of three routes: 1. they make islam see almost entirely spiritual and allegorical to the point where there are very little physical and literal obligations and it almost makes it seem like a very loose religion(this seems to be your case but until i read more of your articles i won't judge)
    2. They take out the spirituality in islam and make it seem like a completely mechanical religion. such as with the salfis
    May I remind you that the combination of the physical, literal, as well as the spiritual and symbolic is what made islam great in the first place, and what made them the leaders of the world in the early years. Religions like bhuddism are not a focal point in the adherents lives becuase they are purely spiritual and provide very little tangible life guidance. And religions like Judaism are entirely physical and full of a bunch of do's don'ts and do this this way(even though as the Quran clearly states they made it that way) and thereofore it is not possible for it to be a religion in which a large society will truly feel the hunger the live by- which is one of the things prophet Isa(PBUH) tried to correct.
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    3. They venerate Imams and shayks to Prophet status or even higher. As is the case with many of the shia brothers today and the followers of men like Rashad Khalifa.
    But regardless we are all muslims, even if one rejects the Hadith, but we have to remember that a muslim should strive to submit to god as much as possible and turn their life into an act of worship, which is why the Quran says to ESTABLISH salah instead of simply "make" salah. And if one is rejecting certain islamic practices that have been a part of the religion for ages, and making it to where his or her life can fit more and have more time for this World, even if he or she don't realize it, then that is not an act of establishing salah but an act of assimilation into the world, which means that if one's studies and beliefs are making it to were God and islam is less of a focal point within that person's life, then this person should probably rethink them.

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    1. Salam, thank you for sharing your thoughts and I know you mean well but Islam is not based on "reviews" of others, it is all about research and understanding of God's words using the God given faculties of reason and logic and unlike the third parties review methodology, the reason and logic methodology have a huge advantage; besides the only methodology sanctioned in the Quran itself, anybody who uses it arrives at the same conclusion :)

      The objective behind this particular post is not to dismiss "Hijab" but point out the huge flaws in the position that propagate it to be an injunction from God. Anybody is free to wear it and equally important is the fact that not wearing it does not make one any less of a Muslim as long as dressing modestly is attempted and generally accepted by the community one lives in.

      Contrary to various labels thrown at me, I am a Muslim. Period.

      Similarly I am not against the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad Pbuh, in fact I am a staunch defender of it. Furthermore I am not against the Hadith literature but demand the Quranic standard of evidence when it comes to accepting reports ascribed to our beloved Prophet Pbuh.

      You are right Islam is a complete way of life. Further more, Islam as detailed in the verses of the Quran is not only complete but perfected with a time stamp with "this day". The Quranic framework is such that any other source or methodology becomes irrelevant.

      What is the Quranic framework;
      A) God is the teacher of Quran: Quran 55:02
      B) God perfected and completed the message: Quran 5:03
      C) Easy remembrance and understandability of the message: Quran 54:17
      D) God declared the end of the message with the words "This day”: Quran 5:03
      E) God explained the verses in detail: Quran 11.01
      F) The responsibility of explaining it has been taken by God Himself: Quran 75:19
      G) The role of messenger to deliver the message: Quran 5:99
      H) God undertook to preserve the physical message: Quran 15:9
      I) To use our faculties of observation, reason and logic and not accept anything without proof : Quran 8:22, 7:179, 25:44, 12:108, 2:111, 17:36, 10:100, 25:73, 4:82, 47:24.
      J) And then this;

      "وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَصَّلْنَاهُ تَفْصِيلًا ............" Quran 17:12 Even Hilali the ultra conservative translates it as "And We have explained everything (in detail) with full explanation"

      Those among us who abandon this framework end up disturbing the perfection and completeness of God's Deen in spite of good intentions.

      It is equally true that one is able to point out the flaws in the now imperfect position with ease using the Quran itself;

      A. Position; Stoning to death as a punishment.
      Flaw; How do you stone somebody half to death?
      B. Position; Punishment of the Grave
      Flaw; what purpose will the Judgement Day serve?
      C. If covering yourself from head to toe is prescribed then what are the rules for relaxation in front of the husband and the father-in-law?

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    2. No offense brother but your position C shows your lack of understanding brother.Every muslim knows that a woman is allowed to relax her dress when in the company in front of other women or her family, including her brothers, father, husband, small children who don't yet have carnal knowledge of women, old slaves who no longer have sexual desires, ect. all this is mentioned in the Quran and not even a hadith. As for the father in law she would still have to have on her outer garment while around him..I believe but don't qpute me on that one. As for hadiths you should really by this book called 40 Hadith Qudsi, it is a book with 40 beautiful sacred hadiths which are basically things reported that the prophet said that Allah had said. These are things that Allah has related to the prophet throughone way or another; maybe through the angel Gabriel that wasn't meant to be part of the Quran, things Allah revealed to him in a dream, while praying, ect. They are also full of wisdom. One such hadith is that the prophet said that Allah pledged to Himself in his Book that is always with Him that his Mercy would prevail over his Wrath, another is that Allah said that he has forbidden tyranny for himself and has likewise forbidden it for his slaves. And still another one is the story of three particular people who will be judged in the hereafter: a mayrt, a scholar, and a wealthy giver, and all will be cast into the hellfire because the martyr fought and died not for Allah but so people would say he was brave, the scholar learned not to give knowledge for the pleasure of Allah but so that people would say he was learned, and the giver gave not for his love of Allah but so that people would say he was generous-all of these were done for the praise of people instead for the pleasure of Allah which shows us muslims how important it is for our jihad to be for the sake of Allah. All of these are in support of the Quran. The 40 Hadith Qudsi book is a good start if you want to have an open heart in the matter. Also you should understand that if a hadith, that comes from authentic sources, seems to contradict the Quran, then that means that it is meant for us to look at it and study it at a higher level for it has a deeper meaning and not a literal meaning, our beloved Prophet(pbuh) was blessed with great knowledge.

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    3. That is all I will say on the matter tho. May Allah bless all with knowledge and understanding and help us live in the ways that will please him most. Ameen Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahhi barakatu :)

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    4. Salam you said "No offense brother but your position C shows your lack of understanding brother." In fact it is my understanding of this particular point that inspired me to write the above post which it seems you didn't even bother to read because if you had, you would have understood the significance of C :)

      So I keep urging you to use your head and you keep telling me "Don't you worry your pretty little head" because somebody else have done the worrying for you :) and all I should do is tow the party line.

      If you had followed God's repeated injunctions and done your own research on the 40 Hadith Qudsi for instance, you would have arrived at the same conclusion like any reasonable person would.

      The interesting thing about the Hadith Qudsi is that it is claimed to be Revelations from God, in addition to the Quran. If it was so then the Prophet Pbuh when prohibiting the writing down of all Hadith surly would have made the Qudsi Hadith as an exception to the rule of not writing down. Obviously no such exception is on record.

      The other thing that stands out as far as these 40 Qudsi Hadith goes has to to do with the fact that a full 25 out of the 40 reports are narrated by one of the most controversial companion Abu Huraira. Given that there were thousands of Sahaba and the period of Revelation extended over 23 years, what are the odds of one Sahaba narrating 25 out of 40 Qudsi Hadiths, especially when he was only around for less than three years and that too towards the end of the Prophet-hood. Who is kidding who?

      The thing that really muddles the issue to farcical levels is; not all the 40 Qudsi Ahadith are considered Sahih. Go figure.

      Now add to it the fact that Muslim converts of Yathrib under the collective name Ansar are specifically associated with the city of Madina. The Quran 9:101 has this to say about the possible hypocrites among the people of Medina;

      Some of the Arabs of the desert around you are hypocrites, and some of the people of Madina are stubborn in hypocrisy. You are not aware of them; We know them, and will punish them twice, and they will be sent to a harrowing doom. Quran 9:101

      As per the above verse there is certainty that one or more people referenced are hypocrites from Medina and since there is no known methodology in the "Science of Hadith" to identify these hypocrites then why on Earth would one accept reports narrated by non other than one Abu Huraira a resident of Medina. Especially when the claim is that these reports are not only ascribed to the Prophet Pbuh but that the Prophet Pbuh supposedly ascribed them in turn to God Himself . Not to mention the lottery winning odds, as mentioned above that he happens to be the narrator of a full 25 out of the 40 reports. Why the insistence on a position that is impossible to defend?

      The solution in the twisted mind set of the Hadith peddlers is nothing short of a sketch from a comedy routine. Google "Abu huraira refuted" and read the top entry. Basically what the author did was; in order to defend Abu Huraira he simply quotes Abu Huraira, repeatedly.

      BTW the above is an excerpt from my post I put up in October last year :)

      Thank you for your prayer and I do hope you will find the courage to break free of whichever sect is messing with your thinking.

      May God reserve your place in Paradise and ease your way getting there.

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  60. You should watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MRXs5fqlXQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G20a9a17FAAAAAAAAOAA

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  61. Mr. Guru,
    I just wanted to thank you for your blog. I too think for myself and have been through Christianity and hated all of the man-made "because so and so said that God wanted this but it''s not exactly from God so we'll call it an INSPIRATION" corruption of humanity in the name of God. So... I became an agnostic for several years. I decided may maybe Unitarian Universalism "to each his own" Was the way to go... But I had to agree with everyone's ideas... Pagan.. Polytheistic.. And I was simply monotheistic and knew there was only ONE God with no equal. THEN I met my fiancé who introduced me to Mohammed and Islam. I converted...skeptical of the Hadith but confident in the Koran. For me, The Koran trumps everything that is brought in to question. I left Christianity for a lack of evidence. I refuse to taint all the evidence I need which is in the Koran, with man-made "I heard that so and so said this and it was confirmed by another so and so who are both of good character... I heard" legislation claiming to do as our Prophet Mohammed did. Like you, as long as I can verify a Hadith with the Koran I can certainly accept it. I was taught to think and question long before I 'reverted'.
    I refuse to have the same struggle with Islam as I did with Christianity. My fiancé is Sunni, but he takes the attitude that that which is not forbidden is permitted. He says the hijab is mandated (which is where we differ) but a woman should cover when she is ready,
    My issue is that I doubt I will ever be ready because to cover your hair is an action in Islam that is characterized by a woman surrendering to the will of God. I must be certain that this is what He wants or I am surrendering to the will of a man... Or several men and my eternity is at stake. It's the way I see it and it's the reason I've yet to allow other Muslim women in my life. I've researched Islam through and through and I see that women, unbeknownst to them, can be their greatest, most oppressive adversaries. I try to ask questions and talk in different forums and they literally tell me "we just have to make sacrifices as Muslim women". Then I think, "Are these sacrifices for Allah, or are they for someone else? Because if your sacrifices are not sanctioned in the Koran, then you are sacrificing in the name of one other than God, and this is the most serious and tragic of all sins." I believe this sin can not be forgiven. Even if you think you are doing it for God, if your motivation comes from man alone, how can you be certain this is a sacrifice God wants? As I wrote this, I am not only thinking of head covers, i am thinking of nail polish, makeup, shaping eyebrows, wearing extra arm covers under your long sleeves, wearing pants, and so on. I love Islam. I feel super comfortable when I'm left alone with God, what he says of Mohammed, and everything else in the Koran. My problem is with Muslim people and their sects and their inability to recognize cultural customs from religious customs. I am SUPER modest by comparison to most women in my society. My hair is never down, and I always wear pants and long sleeved tops.. Even in 110 degree weather (I live by Mexico). Sometimes I wear a hat, sometimes a cover, but I rarely cover my neck because I get so hot. My breasts are fully covered and I've run across women who are certain God will send me to hell for showing my neck and ears. e. Believe me, if I really believed from the bottom of my heart that God wants EVERYTHING covered but my face and hands, I'd do it in a heartbeat! My problem is I don't believe this was the command he gave in the Koran. Why should we question His words and need more information? Didn't he say the Koran is COMPLETE? If a Hadith is more limiting than the words of the Koran, and you go with the limits of the Hadith instead of the Koran, are you not ignoring the limits as defined by our great and Merciful Allah?

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    1. Thank you for visiting my humble blog, I live by a few truths derived from the Quran and when confronted to do otherwise I demand proof. Period

      I will restate those few things here which can be found elsewhere on the blog. The first thing that we must keep in mind is that Quran is a 100% verifiable word of God. Now if someone were to try and convince us that there are other sources at par with the Quran then it stands to reason that the claimer backs it with proof. God in His infinite mercy was not going to gift us the Quran and then leave us at the mercy of others. If that was the plan then there was no need for the Quran to begin with. Quran is complete as you pointed out and the Deen detailed within it is perfect. This is important.

      God's Deen is perfect, the very notion that mere mortals can improve upon God's perfection is absurd. The thing about perfection is that any addition to or subtraction from, renders it imperfect. If some choose to do "more" than the prescribed injunctions then they are free to do so but to try and pass it on as an "act of worship" is plain wrong. Especially when the perfection of God is detailed in the official message of God the Quran by God Himself. It is impossible to "improve" it through impossible to verify reports ascribed to the the Prophet of God Pbuh in a lame attempt to be taken seriously.

      God in the Quran has this to say;

      "وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَصَّلْنَاهُ تَفْصِيلًا ............" Quran 17:12 Even Hilali the ultra conservative translates it as "And We have explained everything (in detail) with full explanation"

      Hence there is absolutely nothing that can be added to the comprehensive explanation of God and certainly not the absurdity of the claim that "Hadith explains" the detailed explanation of God and definitely not the equally absurd claim that this Hadith based explanation of the Quran's explanation needs further explanation by the Mullahs masquerading as "scholars". In addition there is no such thing as Hadith, in fact God repeatedly refer to the Quran itself as the best Hadith.

      "ومن لم يحكم بما أنزل اللـه فأولئك هم الكافرون ........."

      "........ And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed (أنزل) - then it is those who are the disbelievers. Quran 5:44

      The operative word is revealed (أنزل) and declared revealed (أنزل) by the messenger. There is no wiggle room here, there is no backdoor here, there is no ifs and buts, there is no way you can reduce the impact of these words by labeling someone who believes in the one God, His books, His Prophets pbuht, His Malika and the Day of judgement as a Kafir. which the sects are routinely labeling each other and anybody that challenges their illegal claims in the name of God and His Prophet Pbuh.

      The thing about Islam is that it has no central religious authority, no rite of passage and no official clergy and just one 100% internally verifiable look-up book the Quran. It is the ultimate do it yourself religion both on an individual level and community level. Islam is definitely not based on "reviews" of others, it is all about research and understanding of God's words using the God given faculties of reason and logic and unlike the third parties review methodology, the reason and logic methodology have a huge advantage; besides the only methodology sanctioned in the Quran itself, anybody who uses it arrives at the same conclusion unless you break the established rules of logic :)

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    2. .... Continued

      Hijab as a must and accompanied by the Mahram nonsense are totally made up rules, hence have zero significance in Islam. Or lets say Islam outside the illegal sect scene where every single innovation goes against the women. Underage marriages, silence as consent, imagine that, instant divorces (initiated by men only of course) suffocating dress code, short changing women in inheritance. four wives as a rule and on and on. The one that really takes the cake is the "honor" of the family forced on the shoulders of young impressionable girls. How does that work ? seriously !!!, God in His infinite mercy and fair play gave women equal rights, yes equal rights, needless to say "different rights" is a euphemism for inferior in the sect scene.

      There is no specific dress code in Islam as I have tried to make a case for, that is Islam as detailed in the Quran. Dressing modestly is prescribed for both men and women. Wearing Hijab, as defined by the sect scene, is not an "act of worship". In fact Hijab is a Quranic term that has nothing to do with an article of clothing.

      It is also important to note that some are completely ignoring the use of the word Khimar and Hijab in the Quran itself and giving references from selected dictionaries that were compiled centuries later to reflect the by then distorted meanings assigned to these Quranic terms. The funny thing is that no self respecting Arabic speaker will refer to a head cover as khimar even today:)

      The sect scene's fixation on dress code of women is understandable. But we have to be alive to their real motives. Regimentation is the first prerequisite of control. Separation of the genders follow closely. Add no make-up to it and now you have the most visible indicators that can be used to subjugate half of humanity. The other half (brothers, fathers, husbands even sons) are given busy work to police the women. Perfect.

      Men and women in Islam have equal rights, if women must be required to become penguins look alike then men should have to do the same. Why is it that all women related innovations in the sect scene go against the women? Why can't they innovate where the benefit goes to the women and not in a "its good for you" way :)

      My humble advise to Muslims; If you are not willing to verify your faith for yourself then don't be surprised when others tell you what you ought to believe.

      May God reserve your place in Paradise and ease your way getting there.

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  62. The funny thing is that no self respecting Arabic speaker will refer to a head cover as khimar even today:)

    Asalaamualaikum, erm yes they do. Many, I hear it often...

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    1. Yes I know but I did say "self respecting" and clearly those who do are influenced by the sect scene, especially the present lot :)

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  63. Hello. I'm thinking of converting to Islam, but I have a bit of an issue with having to wear a headscarf.... I personally don't see the point in it, or how it will benefit me (I live in a non-Muslim country). Regarding the use of the word ''khimar'', even if it is used to mean 'head-covering', I don't believe it is used as a command to cover the head. In other parts of the Quran, God states that he has given us night to rest. Is this a command that we MUST rest at night, and working night shifts is a sin? I doubt. Also, God states that he has given us Cows for their milk, is God commanding us that we MUST drink milk, or we will be sinners? I can think of many more examples. Also, I have a problem trusting most scholars.... I simply do not trust them. In the Koran it also states that 'Gods guidance is the ONLY guidance', therefore I will not be guided by these so called scholars.

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    1. Hi, thanks for visiting my humble blog.

      I think you are on the right track and will be an asset to the beautiful religion. Excellent point about the cows. My point of posting the above was to make it clear that "Hijab" as defined by the sect scene is neither an obligation nor an act of worship. That said, if someone choose to wear it as part of their personal sense of a modest attire so be it but at the same time they must accept someone else's different sense of modest attire which does not include covering of the head.

      As I often keep repeating myself on these pages and I do it because using your faculties of reason and logic are the keys to understanding any discipline. The very notion that somehow we should abandon this approach when choosing our faith is inexplicable, given the fact that this is what will ultimately define us.

      There is no room for blind Faith in Islam. So what is an individual Muslim supposed to do when routinely pressed to either accept claims about what was said or done blindly or risk being labeled a "Kafir" or decide to join the very people one is supposed out and become a "muhaddith" (a made up qualification)in the hope to make sense out of these impossible to verify reports.

      God's solution to the dilemma is to pull us back to the fundamentals and repeatedly reminded us to use our power of observation, reason and logic to the point that don't invoke a God unless you have proof (Quran 23:117) and there is great wisdom in this insistence. The principles of sound reasoning and correct inference are universal. The big advantage of the rational route as opposed to the taqleedy order (the teacher is always right) is that irrespective of the material at hand, the conclusions reached are repeatable and verifiable independent of an additional specialist knowledge or "titles" earned. Even if we lack expertise in a particular domain, one can rationally test the premises upon which a particular discipline is based.

      Hence that is the reason, Islam as detailed in the Primary document Quran has no central religious authority, no rite of passage and no official clergy and just one 100% internally verifiable look-up book the Quran. It is the ultimate do it yourself religion both on an individual level and community level. Islam is definitely not based on "reviews" of others, it is all about research and understanding of God's words using the God given faculties of reason and logic and unlike the third parties review methodology, the reason and logic methodology have a huge advantage; besides the only methodology sanctioned in the Quran itself, anybody who uses it arrives at the same conclusion unless you break the established rules of logic and rational thought :)

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  64. Hey it's once again Seraj :)

    I've been doing a little more research on the topic of women's dress code, and recently it became apparent to me that the word Zeena زينة cannot be used to describe a natural part of the body but rather outside items such as make-up, hair-dye, jewellery etc.

    والزِّينَةُ ما يتزين به Lisan Arab

    Which means it cannot possibly refer to the breasts and thighs which are a natural part of a woman's body. Your thoughts?

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    1. Salam Seraj, of course I remember you.

      Interesting what you have pointed out and I do have respect for Lisan Arab but when we see the use of the word Zeena in the Quran itself there is no indication that it cannot be used in the sense that a women's body is referred to and if we assume it is jewellery etc then how would you render Quran 24:60. One of the reason I got interested in this particular aspect of the Quranic injunction was that if we were to restrict the meaning to either the whole body as the traditionalist would want us to or go the other way and merely make-up, jewellery etc is considered then the relaxation aspect becomes very difficult to resolve from within the Quranic verses.

      That said I am always open to suggestions :)

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    2. Thanks for your response :),

      I understand what you're saying, but using the word Zeena in this light is linguistically wrong and if we're interpreting it as referring to bodily parts as well then we're just interpreting based on our opinions. Surely that opens the door to many alternative explanations as well?

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  65. yes i agree that women dont have to cover their hair since no where in the Quran it says to cover women's hair , it only says to cover their chest/bosom
    you should post it in the ramadan section of YA
    its not obligatory and khimar means cover not head cover
    thanks for your post

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    1. it has been said in Verse 24:31.
      By the way i am a muslim girl of 13 and i am wearing hijab. So i think that i know more of hijab than anyone here. i think everyone here are non-muslims.

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  66. Salam,

    My problem with this interpretation is the word Zeena زينة.
    Not only is understanding the word "Zeena" as a woman's beauty linguistically inacurrate, but take a look at 7:31 which uses the word زينتكم as well. And it's pretty obvious God isn't referring to natural beauty but rather asking us to adorn ourselves for the mosque. Also, does that mean women can't go to mosques, or have to be separated from men, since women can't expose their adornment to men?

    Would b great if you could clear this up for me, thanks :)

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  67. hijab is farz for all muslims women. It means to cover their whole body except their hands and face. And if a women wants to cover her face and hands then it will be nafal. Women don't have to maintain their hijab only in front of their husband, father, son, brother, their sister's son, their brother's son, their husband's son,their husband's father, their sisters in islam, their female slaves whom their right hands possesses , old male slaves who lack in vigor , children who have no sense of feminine sex. Women have to maintain hijab in front of their male cousins, their step fathers, their step brothers, their brother in laws, their husbands sisters sons, their husbands brothers sons, their distant uncles, grandfathers, the men who are not of their family and non-muslim women. There are also some conditions of wearing hijab. the first condition is to cover the whole body except the hands and face. The second condition is that the clothes and hijab should not be tight. The third condition is the the clothes of following hijab should not match with the opposite gender. The fourth condition is the clothes and hijab should not be transparent and semi-transparent. The fifth condition is the clothes which will cover the whole body except the face and hands will not be of the clothes of the non-muslims. Thar's why to fulfill hijab or parda wearing burka is the best.
    I am a girl of 13 and i am wearing hijab for eight months constantly. I am very proud wearing hijab because it had been made farz by allah for all muslim women. I am also absolutely sure that Allah will protect me under all situations as i am wearing hijab constantly and will wear it forever inshallah constantly.
    Well i don't know if life guru and others her are muslims. Of they are really then they should know that they are committing sins for denying the verses of Allah . Because i myself am wearing hijab and i have studied a lot regarding hijab. Hijab is fatz. It is also called Parda. Hijab has been made farz foe the muslim women's safety. It prevents harrasment, rape, and other actions which is harming for women's virginity. Thise muslim women who want to get the jannat will try to perform everything commanded by Allah. So they will also follow Hijab.
    I don't think Life Guru and others here are muslims.
    I am a sunnih muslim wearing hijab and i am proud of my hijab.

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  68. I think this will help with the details of your Arabic translation efforts a bit. It is how I am learning to read the transliterated Arabic edition: http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=24&verse=31#(24:31:1)

    A literal, word-for-word Arabic to English translation can read thus, with concordant guidance being introduced from the remainder of the Quran: "And say to the believing women that they should lower of their gaze, and they should guard their chastity [genitals]. And not display their adornment [either natural or supplemental, as you have indicated] except what is apparent [expected] of it. And let them draw their head covers over their bosoms, and not to display their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands [fathers in-law], or their sons, or sons of their husbands [step-sons], or their brothers, or sons of their brothers [fraternal nephews], or sons of their sisters [sororal nephews], or their women [other females], or what their right hand possesses [slaves, even the males], or attendants having no sexual desire among the men [commonly known as eunichs and castrati; males that lacked male hormones either naturally or due to intervention], or the children who are not aware of the private aspects of the women (who are naive about 'sexuality' in relation to genital parts). And not let them stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment." Adornment might best be understood as natural or supplemental cues, whether visual as in the case of breast movement (a sign of fertility) or auditory as in the case of jewelry pieces clinking together (a sign of wealth), that could be used among women to compete or by men to be compared. The Quran asserts the equality of ALL believing women because of their status as believers and encourages believing men to not be shallow in selecting a wife but to consider a woman's faith, first and foremost.

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  69. Selam to everyone,
    I've come accross your blog by coincidence, and I am happy I did, because I've enjoyed some of the topics treated here :) I've been trying to understand Quranic verses for a long time, and while on it, there's this interesting thing i've come accross, but as a non-arabic speaker, i can't really be sure whether it is correct, so i would kindly ask help from my other brothers and sisters in islam who speak arabic. Here it goes:
    Additional notes for Arabic readers:
    The word "khumur" is used in 24:31 and can be the plural of "khimaar" or "khimirr", and can mean any cover made of cloth or headcover, according to Classical Arabic dictionaries and Traditional Ahadith/Narrations (see Ibn Kathir tafsir). Please note the Arabic preposition "bi" meaning "with" in "bikhumurihinna", which means they are to cover their chests with their "khumur/covers/headcovers". The usage of preposition "bi" is different to the preposition "min" as used in 33:59 "min jalabeebihinna" which means to use a part of their "jilbab/outer-garment" in the modification suggested, i.e. not all of it has to be lowered or drawn near, just part of it. In 24:31 if God intended that part of it (e.g. headcover) stays on the head and part of it be used to cover the bosom, it would have been more appropriate to use "min khumurhinna". Furthermore, the word "yadribna" as used in 24:31 has no connotation of lengthening or lowering in any other occurrence, unlike "yudneena" in 33:59 which does, thus would have been more appropriate to use."

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    1. Salam, thank you from visiting my humble blog :)

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    2. Alaikum selam, thank you for greeting me back. But would you really appreciate if you'd kindly answer is the statement i quoted above true? Because I'm trying to gain knowledge and become a good muslim (by a good muslim I mean a muslim who pleases Allah, not ulemas or mullahs or other people).

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  70. Can I just ask if Hijab is not compulsory then why do we have to wear it when performing 5 times prayer, pilgrimage and reading Quran?????

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    1. Salam. Thank you for visiting my humble blog. The thing is there is nothing in either the Quran or a mutawatir Hadith that says you have to wear a Hijab to pray, read the Quran or perform Hajj. All these rules are based on either third party single narrations that fails the test of accepting evidence as per our Furqan the mighty Quran or these are just opinions of somebody claiming to know Islam.

      Even the very word Hijab itself is distorted from how God uses it repeatedly in the Quran. The question is who changed God's intended meaning and why ?

      On the other hand if you feel you are more comfortable covering up (except face veil, which is unIslamic) then please do by all means as long as it is your own decision and based entirely on the premise that the only way you feel one can dress modestly is by covering up in the sect popularized way then please do :) My humble advise. please avoid doing so in an environment where you may stick out as a sore thumb because that will defeat the purpose of dressing modestly and instead you will only manage to turn yourself into an object of curiosity like "look at me I am a Muslim" :)

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  71. Selam to all, and specially to LifeGuru for having given us this great blog,
    If I'd get to choose a word to describe Koran, I'd say "the perfection within two covers''. I've read the Koran many many times, and it never fails to amaze me over and over again. I don't know about other muslims, but for me there's not a single question that i can't find its answer inside it. Even if there is an ayah that mentions something not so clear, there is always at least one other ayah that clarifies its meaning for you. No surprise that God said "...indeed, upon Us is its collection and its recitation.When you have received it by hearing, transmit it by reciting.Then upon us is its clarification."(75:16-19). Prophet a.s. was not allowed to transmit an ayah in a way which includes also his way of interpreting it. God would take care personally to clarify meaning of such ayah later on during other revelations. That's in perfect harmony with the verse that says that Koran is ''fully detailed''. What I've come to notice is that there are certain verses where we are given some space to make some choice of our will (like for example when we are shown which foods are forbidden, but we are free to choose from whatever foods we like, apart from the forbidden ones, or like forbidden categories for marriage, apart from those you choose for yourself do you want to marry someone or not). But in the cases which treat sensitive issues or serious matters, Allah is clear and straightforward, without giving us space to misunderstand or misinterpret.
    As to human interpretations and secondary sources, we must never forget that they are humans prone to errors as all of us, so they can also be mistaken. In the Koran we are told to watch out and not to become like jews or christians. Jews didn't follow the guidance of their prophets, let alone the guidance of religious leaders, who even corrupted Allah's books for their own purposes. Christians on the other side magnified their prophet Isa to God or son of God (nauzubilah) and religious leaders, making them ''holy fathers'' and ''infallible teachers''. This is where we were told not to be like them: we were to respect religious leaders, but we also were to remember that they are humans like us, so we shouldn't follow blindly without doing our Koran searching. If they were to have had the guidance of the God regarding the interpretation of the Koran, their opinions wouldn't differ. That's why we have to consult them but also verify things for ourselves.

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  72. (continued) Back to the point of the head-cover, one of the hot-topics of our deen: as i said above, when it comes to sensitive issues and serious matters, Allah is clear and straightforward, leaving us no room for misunderstandings. The word ''head'' appears 18 times in Koran, but 0 times in ayahs regarding dressings. I can't help without asking: if it was so important to Allah, why wouldn't He mention it? He mentions the charity, chastity, good deeds, patience during hardship, etc many times, because these are things that matter so much to him and he wants us to practice them constantly. But he mentions not the head in the ayahs regarding the dressing! Some people might say that it was in underlying sense of the verse, or that it would ruin Koran's poetic and linguistic structure, but Allah is free from those limitings of power and knowledge. We humans would have risked such a ruining, but He would have made it mentioned without ruining the overall structure of his book. He could have said ''...let their covers over their heads and chests'' and together with the ''garments over our bodies (jilbabs)'', the hijab commandment would have been crystal-clear, and noone would have to argue about ''hijab, niqab or burka?'' subject. Instead he chose to tell us ''use your covers over your chest'' He within his infinite knowledge knew that this way of saying would imply either leaving a part of it on top of head, or putting it down and covering the decollete. Allah let us space to decide the way how to fulfill his commandment to cover the chest. He could have used more specific words since He never runs out of words (31:27) or He could have specified it, if our dresses mattered so much to him, but He only focused on wanted us to be modest and to cover our bodies in such ways that don't attract sexually, because "We created for children of Adam a garment which covers private parts, an adorning garment, but the garment of righteousness - that's the best garment'' (7:26). ".

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  73. Hi there,
    @AnonymousJuly 10, 2014 and @ Life Guru,

    I am so please to see someone like you both pointing out the meaning of hijab. I am a convert and married to a Sunni muslim and live in US. I never believe in hijab and some of the so called Islamic practice in the masjid. like segregation in the congregation. I do believe those are man made theory. My dilemma is I am half forced and half willing to wear my hijab for about 7 years now. I have to because of threatening by a divorce if I am not doing it. My husband is a lovely and responsible husband but there is no negotiation about hijab or dressing code. I still wear normal clothing - loose fit and classy. I hate to wear hijab so much because it suffocate me physically, I chock and feel nausea all the time . I am obsessively want to find any excuse or chance of not wearing it by researching up and down in books and internet. My husband thinks I try to find some evidence to fulfill my hinder agenda. What would you do if you were me? I sometimes don't wear it especially in the hot and humid summer in my state. Even worse, my daughter is soon to becoming the age of wearing it. She hates it and cries a lot. It becomes her constant nightmare, real nightmare in her dream. I secretly told her that I will allow her to take it off in school but wear it if go out with her daddy. I know it is not right but I don't want to force her and give her the negative feeling of Islam. She is a good girl who observe Islam- prayer, fasting, zakat. She wears loose fit clothing, have good manners and a all As student. I don't know how to handle her case as well. I am approaching menopause very soon and find that may be an excuse for me not wearing it. Still my husband insists. I am really thinking living in a double life - taking off in work and out when he is not around. I am an adult and should be free to decide things about me and on me. I find myself pathetic! In this regards, I really "dislike" Islam of imposing the "Fard" on women. Other than that, I am still are not quite understand the meaning of Our Prophet (PBH) married Asish - at the age of 9. All those are "flaws" for non muslim to attack us. Please help. Jzk.

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    1. Salam Karen, I always feel sad when a fellow Muslim is responsible for the type of situation you have been put into. Needless to say this is neither a Fard nor otherwise religiously significant. Wearing a Hijab is not an act of worship. Period.

      Allow me to get the issue of Aysha's marriage out of the way. The nine year version never happened. Please read my post on the subject here http://lifecheat.blogspot.com/2010/06/age-of-aisha.html

      My humble advice as always; please avoid wearing the Hijab in an environment where you may stick out as a sore thumb because that will defeat the purpose of dressing modestly and instead you will only manage to turn yourself into an object of curiosity like "look at me I am a Muslim" :)

      As far as your husband's stand is concerned it is a tough one but it is more of a social and cultural issue. I am in no position to encourage you to stand your ground and even if I were it will still be not the best solution. Your Husband obviously, like most Muslims, has outsourced his Deen to the sect scene. The only thing I can suggest is to keep bringing up the issue of research in a nice way and remind him that as per the Quranic standard, third party single narrations have exactly zero value in Islam when it comes to accepting claims.

      Hopefully if you keep at it, it may push him to do his own research and realise that outsourcing one’s Deen is not a very good idea. After all it is going to be our individual necks on the day of judgement hence our interpretation is the only one that matters.

      May God give you the courage to face up to these challenges.

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